Multisim Opamp Change To Nano Voltage

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When i change LM324 with 'virtual opamp' it works as expected - there is no negative voltage at output. I know that LM324 is far from ideal but i think it doeesn't have ability to produce negative voltages, especially when there is no capacitor or inductor in this circuit. My question is - what am i doing wrong? What should i set in Multisim to.

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I am new to Operational Amplifiers and I am trying to simulate a differential amplifier with a gain of 1.2, here it is:

As you can see I am using input voltages higher than VCC and according to datasheet the Common Mode Voltage Range is VCC-1.5V so the Operational Amplifier should work 'ok' only with input voltages less than 28.5V am I right?

But on this simulation I am getting a correct output: (40-32)*1.2 = 9.6V. So I can put higher voltages than Vcc or simulation is wrong?

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I have tried this with higher voltages and I think, that multisim seems to work correctly when you are not exceeding devices maximum ratings. If you put 100V at the input of op-amp powered from 30V - do not expect any correct results.

Multisim Opamp Change To Nano Voltage

In real life op-amp with input voltage above maximum from datasheet would blow up - I dont remember internal structure of LM324, but there are probably ESD protection diodes. They blow up first in that scenario.

My conclusion is - check voltages at input and output pins and make sure they not exceed maximum ratings :)

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Also, notice that in your circuit you have voltage dividers at the op-amp inputs and they divide your input voltage by 120ohm/(100ohm+120ohm) = ~0.54.

V2 voltage is divided by R2 and R2, so you have ~21,818V at noninverting input

V1 voltage is divided by R1 and R4, so yoy have ~17,454V at inverting input

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On the one hand, you are only applying 21.8 V to the input pins of the op-amp, so you are not violating the common mode input specs.

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On the other hand, simulators are not necessarily good at detecting unusual conditions. Overvoltages, overcurrents, or thermal runaway conditions are often not modeled accurately (or at all) by SPICE-like simulators.

Whether your circuit works in real life might depend, for example, on how the three voltages (V1, V2, Vcc) are ramped up when you turn the circuit on, or how they ramp down when you turn the circuit off.

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How do I make this work in multisim?
I have this circuit:
Virtual ground of of Vcc(16V) / 2 = 8V.
There is a function generator off the top edge of the image feeding a sine wave (o.5V peak, 10kHz) into my opamp.
With both the signal generator and the 4 channel scope grounded, this is what I get. The sine wave is the input signal from the function generator. But all I get from my opamp is a flat line.
I tried grounding the the function generator to my virtual ground of 8V.
The sine wave input signal goes off the top edge of the scope unless I put in a negative offset to move it down into view.
And the output of my opamp seems to be a clipped triangle wave, oscillating about 8V, instead of an identical sine wave of large amplitude.
I don't get it. How do you implement a non-inverting amplifier with a Vcc/GND
My non-inverting opamp works terrifically if I make the supply 16V/-16V with the standard configuration straight from the opamp datasheet.
Is this just an artifact of multisim to be ignored?
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